Wednesday, May 17, 2006

Morgellons Theories are varied

Many Theories have been proposed for the cause of "Morgellons", many were gathered at:

http://home.comcast.net/~usp-db/results/theories.htm

Here's a selection of some of the more interesting theories:

• I think this could be a tiny fly (midge) that carries a parasite (something like leishmania). The fly loves to live in hair, and the fly larva loves to live in our skin.
• CO poisoning, mold, and the Lyme disease?
• Took wormwood, used sulfur and had round spot- things "explode" out of my pores that hurt. Biting sensation can be pricly to very sharp. Are these hook worms?
• I have leaned towards man-made govt. botches, bioterrorism, or.....get this.....one of the plagues of the end times
• I believe that this is a bacterial infection primarily with a secondary parasitic element for the majority of patients
• I believe this to be some type of fungus, bacteria or mycoplasma that resides in the dermis layer of skin. It is transparent and it attracts parasites that feed on it or its effects through skin pores.It could well be a new bio engineered strain of something that has escaped or been turned loose upon us
• are military bases....something to ponder
• I also had a Saltwater Aquarium w/ live rock & live sand. During water changes & moving the live rock, I cut my finger on sharp edge. I believe it is a strong possibility how I was infected.
• contact with dying patient who supposedly had Norwegian scabies? Touched his rash- no gloves- immediate crawling
• I believe this is an insect that morphs from one stage into another.
• I got this from an ac system in a sick building.
• I do believe that this blight was bio-engineered
• possibly bug lives within body and crawls thru nasal cavity or tear ducts or when introduced to other insects
• our government has a patent on Mycoplasma - this needs more research. Stealth Viruses are definitely involved. Government altered nematodes that were originally to be used to damage enemies crops.
• I've research black pedra, which is a fungus of the hair/scalp. I believe it's a fungus which can spread from hair falling out.
• I also feel that the slow permeation of the environment with radioactive dust and the imbalance created by electromagnetic pollution has given 'bad' fungi and bacteria an edge over 'good', creating more food for these super bugs.
• Maybe the sticky liquid is the fungal infection and the lesions are our skin's attempt to fight this infection.
• I believe the string/ lint/ hairs / etc. are both 1. Part of the cocoon structures produced to protect "their" young and 2. A way to transmit along blood to "their" young = via an umbilical-cord or veins..... I believe the sand-like granuals are nymphs / still in development....
• Maybe this is a way to thin out the population
• I use to think that I got this from doing crank way back then.
• I am the only coffee drinker in the house. I used to drink tea but changed to coffee 6 years back. same time I noticed itching no other member off my family has symptoms
• I think it is a parasite and not a fungus. This parasite can produce toxic substances such as threads and crystals.
• This is part of the military and federal health care vaccination programs, people who receive the military vaccine and flu shots are heavy mostly asymptomatic carriers, avoid them for your life and especially EVERY vaccine even the new bird flu.
• The fact that just entering the room people begin swatting at their eyes proves no doctor could claim this to be delusional because they are attacked by being within apex 3 ft of me.
• One of my dogs has tested positive for Lyme disease
• My torment is related to bird mites after removing a sparrow's nest from my garage
• I had Morgellons lesions on my legs when sewage backed up into my tub
• No such type of parasite exists in medical circles. They bite and create wounds. They are blood seeking parasites
• This Morgellons creature has been identified by someone as the same creature that was found within the Frass Meteorite. Perhaps from another planet
• I think this problem is a result of genetic engineering of enzymes and/or altering insects so or their larva used to controls pests so as to improve crops
• My house, when I got back from out of town, was covered with black fiber balls everywhere, in every room and that's how I caught it. It couldn't of been fungus, and I believe it could've been used by most likely our government, in order to test out a new biological weapon.
• I do believe it is possible Morgellons are "new" or possibly manmade, accidentally or otherwise. I find it curious that many Morgellons message boards have been visited by shady characters and/or harassed out of existence.
• It seems to me that the most prevalent factors are water damage and dampness
• These things make themselves in their own image. They take food, & reproduce themselves in my mouth.
• scabies are a possible way of infection as im sure i had scabies first, and then these took over
• I am 99.99% sure that my infestation came from a houseplant that I had left outside and brought into my house after several days and watering. I believe numerous types of mites infested the plant.
• I think there is something else to all of this, but what "it" is, I just don't know.
• The nanoflagellar machine. The idea of using bacterial nanocombinations in computers.
• I believe something the biochemists made somehow mutated from what they thought it was and they are trying to correct it by putting things in the air, they didn't know it was affecting people, and now, what they are doing is making us worse.
• my theory is that we have been infected much longer, but some recent environmental change (environmental becuase of it's diffuse nature among the population) may have brought on the acute parasitic effects or somehow made a dormant infestation become active.

Still think everyone has the same thing?

At 6:12 PM,  Smileykins said...

I think our law makers and the CDC are too patient and kind, being bothered with all this.

At 10:53 AM,  Anonymous said...

Not everybody that has morgellons may have the same thing as far as a parasitic infection
The common denominator that morgellons sufferers have regardless of the parasitic infection involved doctors are not doing their home work as far as ruling out an actual parasitic infection before pronouncing the DOP diagnosis as per protocol
Most Doctor's do a visual check and a W.B.C count if your lucky A biopsy and they might take specimens that are brought in to them and send them to the lab for scrutiny but I hold my reservations that they are probably dunked in the trash as soon as the patient leaves the room
They do none of the test that would rule out infection for sure like skin scrapings stool count so on and so forth
In most cases the patient is met with Resistance if he/she ask for such test you would have to be there to believe it

So you are right on target morgellons is not just one thing
it is more of a name for Doctors being lazy in ruling out parasitic infection as per mandated in the in the diagnostic protocol more than any thing

The dangers of such a mistake are huge to the patient if happens
to be actual parasitic infection

At 1:16 PM,  Margellons said...

The problem though, it that people like the Morgellons Research Foundation and Savely are saying that Morgellons is one particular disease, and people are being fooled into thinking they have it, which can distract from effective treatment.

If instead you are suggesting we should reclassify Morgellons as "a condition shared by a number of people, being a conviction that their doctor is too quick to diagnose somatization", then I'm all for it.

At 5:18 PM,  Smileykins said...

Doctors aren't stupid, as they're so often labeled as being. Patients need to know how to effectively make the most of that crucial, allotted amount of time they spend in the office with them.

If a morgie repeats the same ings, as always, but repeats them to another doctor, and yet another, and so on and so forth, expecting to be given more satisfactory results from the encounter, each and every time

...why do they fail to realize that it is THEIR presentation

...they, themselves, and NOT the fault of their doctors'?

Any medical professional that is "puzzled" by this morgie business, as the so-called ones in the news in Texas, recently, had better take a refresher course in basic human anatomy, and pay closer attention in class, this time around, to the properties of the epidermal layer's innate immunity.

Anyone who plans to visit a doctor, needs to just stop their confusing talk that gets them an unsatisfactory diagnosis, as well, and practice a better way of presenting the symptoms. Stop repeating the mistakes, over and over.

Put the damned crud into the trash receptacle at home, and stop obsessing. Normal people don't own microscopes.

Just TRY getting a grip and doing yourselves a favor, morgie people.

Cast aside the childishness too, of being so presumptuous to exclaim that only fit and healthy individuals are opposed to the beliefs you embrace and in the misconceptions in your thought processes that cause them.

That alone speaks volumes in addressing part of the problem, and the more that morgies rise to their defense, the more of the underlying mental aspects to the etiology of this phenomenon is apparent to the public.

At 10:11 PM,  Smileykins said...

Another thing that proves the mental aspect of this, is that when someone is truly suffering, they want relief.

You don't defend the cause of the so-called-suffering, and morgies fail to realize everyone sees through that.

It's real sad, but I think that maybe they've been persecuted in their lives, and there is an element of masochism, for some of them.

They've got a lot going on, mentally, that feeds into the whole picture. Whatever their individual situations are, they appear to not be able to cope with them, and morgellons is their escape.

As long as they keep it, they have something to allow themselves to not have to try dealing with the things in their lives that are bothering them. Trying to help them understand anything, is worse than trying to wean a babie that's hooked on a pacifer.

They nuture this thing, and defend it, because they don't want rid of it. It's the only thing giving definiton to their lives right now.

At 12:35 AM,  Anonymous said...

I've also wondered if it had to do with doing crank years ago. That's when it started. Since I have been off crank for 6 years,it has pretty much gone away. I had the white fibers poking through my skin. I'd try to pull them out but it seemed as though they were attached to something in my body. When I'd let go of it,it would retract back in so I couldn't remove it. This is giving me the eebee jeebees just thinking about it. I have many scars from this. I havn't really told anyone until now because I was sure that it was from doing crank. I didn't want to admit to anyone that I had done that.

At 1:15 AM,  Smileykins said...

Well, it's nobody's business what we do in our personal lives. I've never done crank, but when people have to turn to alcohol or drugs, that's certainly not a reflection that they are bad people. It's usually quite the opposite. If I encounter a homeless person outside a store, begging for money to buy a bottle of booze with, I give them $10. The poor souls always invent an outlandish story of what they need the money for. It's so sad. Anyway, I've always thought, since the media made us all aware of "crank bugs", and that users seemed to experience the same things as morgie people, that it was due to unintentional neglect. We basically tend to take our skin for granted, until there's a problem, and sometimes that problem, if the unintentional neglect has gone on too long, can become really major, really quickly. It doesn't just serve as a barrier to keep toxins out of our systems, but it serves to eliminate them as well. Congratulations on getting off the stuff!!! At 7:18 AM, Tinfoil Hat Merchant said... I work in the tech support field. I have worked tech support and customer service telephone jobs for well nigh 7 years now. I can usually spot a scam a mile and a half away. Doctors usually have a ton of experience before they can call themselves MDs. Then an experienced doctor on top of that----you think they can't spot a delusional patient? At 5:30 PM, Smileykins said... It's nerve-wracking, isn't it? And yet, they'll blame morgellons disease on wrecking their lives and driving people away. (Gosh, that makes my head hurt thinking of what I just said.) At 7:30 AM, Anonymous said... Has it actually been established that "Smileykins" thinks? Frowneykins At 2:50 PM, Smileykins said... I'm sorry you have a low IQ, Frowneykins. I sure can't help you with that, anymore than I could help a person suffering from delusions that are caused from not understanding what is really wrong with them, when it's so apparent to a thinking society. I'd once had DOP, for a couple of months, without needing a doctor to tell me that was what it was. Maybe you need some courage to face up to things, like an adult. If you don't have it, seek assistance from a professional. There is absolutely no shame in that! At 3:03 PM, Tall Cotton said... Frownykins, Yes, as a matter of fact, it has been established that Smileykins thinks. Her writings are some of the most intelligent you'll ever read. For anyone but a moron that would be obvious. Tall Cotton At 3:39 PM, Smileykins said... Oh now, hush, Tall Cotton. You know we can all only recognize each other by the fruits we bear. I'm thought of as a narcissist, by morgie people. Narcissists are all caught up in themselves, with no concern for anyone else. I'll wear that hat if it fits, but morgies are more suitably qualified to wear it, than I am. Are any of us making fun of morgies? Not like the rest of society. Margellons, Tin Hat Foil Merchant, You, Me, and all the others, here, and about, on the internet, cannot help it if they view what we say outside the protective walls of their universe. If peeking into the realm of the real world is upsetting to them, they need to stop, and seek cover from harm, back inside the walls of their fortress. They can't fool anyone but themselves. At 3:49 PM, Smileykins said... Oh, "Tin Foil Hat Merchant", I'd meant to say. I think I'll go into the kitchen and make myself a little one right now, out of some Reynolds Wrap, and see if that helps me think a little more clearly. Maybe I can pick up some electromagnetic signals to assist me in my thought processing abilities, and explore the vast unknown. At 4:03 PM, johnboy said... Well, Ginger is getting her claim to fame. Channel 2 (CBS)in Los Angeles just ran a 10 minute special on Morgellons Friday, May 19. (cbs2.com/video/?id=18783@kcbs.dayport.com) will get you the video. It is tragic what is happening. How can the health profession stop this hysteria? At 4:06 PM, Tall Cotton said... The Morgies are claiming that their so-called "disease" has given them new found psychic powers. I wonder why they don't use those powers to determine the source of the all American red, white, and blue industrial fibers. I knew that they had let their ordinary illnesses turn into a curse, but it seems that they have now tuned in to the devil himself. At 4:29 PM, Tall Cotton said... johnboy, I don't know when the hysteria will stop, but the morgellons cult is hurting a lot of people. It not only hurts the "believers", but also their precious innocent children. It also hurts the family pets. These innocent ones suffer from neglect and the ill effects of their experiments. The children are also being indoctrinated into the same crazy way of thinking as their parents. It all began with a young boy named Drew and his crazy mother. At 4:46 PM, Smileykins said... Yes, John Boy. They're preying on these misfortunate members of society and being served extremely well. I don't know how it can be stopped, when it never should have begun in the first place. Mary Leitao's own illness is what kicked the entire thing off and she is flourishing with the fame she sought. I would be embarrassed as hell, if it were me, as anyone should be, but with the evil agenda that's behind it all, it doesn't matter that the CDC will continue to ignore them. That isn't even what this is about to begin with. There is no way to protect this vulnerable portion of society. Their own families and friends can't even help them. Morgies are allowing their small children to be neglected, as well as their pets, even allowing them to go without veterinary care, until they die. The networks that broadcast news items about this, are out for ratings, and that's all. The bad thing that it serves to do, as you well know, is to reach other mentally ill individuals, to assist in perpetuating the evil agenda Mary Leitao and her crew have for themselves. About all that could feasibly be done, would be for the Surgeon General to step in, or for the CDC to run public service announcements denouncing it. But nobody pays attention to this except for the mentally ill. Mary Leitao should be burned at the stake for what she's doing to these poor victims. Our public officials are well aware of this (and you know "how-and-why"), and it will be addressed in the long run. When that could occur, I'm afraid, will be a long way off in the future. In the meantime, the poor morgie people are waiting around just like little children anticipating Santa Claus to arrive on Christmas eve. It's bad enough what's going on with them, but now, when it involves innocent children and animals, that's far, far too much for our society to take sitting down. They have it inside their poor, confused, sick minds that "morgellons disease" is the cause of the sufferings of their babies and pets. They embrace that, too!!! Psychopharmacology is the only answer to this. If they got their minds back on track, everything else about their health, and their lives, and the lives they are affecting with this, would eventually fall into place. At 8:03 PM, abac68 said... You are all so FOOLISH - while you all waist time bickering amongst yourselves, just remember the rest of us Morgellons Disease sufferers across the other side of the world. We would like your Government to "pull their finger out". You are all entitled to your opinion, but I don't believe that personal attacks on people ie. the Morgellons Foundation members is at all called for. Please consider making a website that will show how totally incompetent, stupid, and down right careless the CDC really is. At 11:20 PM, Margellons said... abac68, have you actually read anything here? Maybe you could comment on that? At 6:43 PM, Moro Rogers said... Frass Meteorite...? 'Frass' means bug crap...Coincidence?!? (Sorry, haha...I just stumbled on this site because I find the whole Morgellons thing really fascinating. Good material for a Tool video...) At 7:11 PM, Tinfoil Hat Merchants said... It's an old scam. People with somatoform disorders (psychological syndromes that manifest as a delusional belief in physical symptoms) don't want to believe it is all in their heads. A readily curable psychological/psychiatric disorder does not serve their psychological needs. All a quack with no ethics needs to do is to tell somatizers that they have something horrible and debilitating that requires long-term treatment and isolation----which is EXACTLY what a somatizer wants to hear. Just look at what happened with Multiple Chemical Sensitivity. At 1:31 AM, Smileykins said... You can see that morgellons is their one, true, best friend. It isn't right to scam people to profit from their problem, but that's just the way it is. At 6:16 PM, Anonymous said... I had these exact symptoms,my doctor prescribed Hydroxyzine HC 10 MG. and Clobetasol Propionate 0.05% The symptoms were gone in 10 days,no itching or burning. The parasite does not appear on my skin anymore. At 3:25 PM, Tall Cotton said... A vast majority of these sufferers have no parasites associated with their condition with the exception of the opportunists they have attracted to their open lesions. Yet many of these individual have the unshakable belief that dead skin cells, extra cellular debris, scabs, hairs, industrial fibers, and products of normal immune responses, like the production of alternate cellular energy pigments are parasites. In their twisted minds they see blood monsters, egg layers, cercaria, bugs, worms of every sort, and virtually every malicious arthropod their sick minds can imagine. They try to destroy these things using antibiotics, fungicides, anti-microbials, anti-helminths, and pesticides. They only succeed is compromising their skin's integrity and immunity. They scratch, pick, obcess, and photograph. They pick at their poop and compare note. They save their corrupted "specimens" which are undoubtedly crawling with the dangerous microbes they have attracted, and they continuously revisit this material that is much more than worthless. We try to help them and they wish the curse on us. God help these poor misguided souls. Crazy Mary and Wacky Wymore are leading their cult to destruction and their followers are simply too dumb to realize it. At 3:15 PM, ItchyItch said... I have "suffered" from generalized itching for a good 20 years now. It comes and it goes, sometimes it is maddeningly intense. But it NEVER crossed my mind that I might be infested with some unidentifiable parasite. I don't dig at my skin or examine scabs under a microscope. The difference between me and a "morgie" is that I don't CARE why I am itching, I just want to stop itching. So I pop a Benadryl and get on with my life. At 8:05 PM, Smileykins said... It is excellent that Benadryl helps you to cope, Itchyitch, and it sounds like you have a perfectly level head. I misunderstand it when people say they're "suffering", perhaps. The word is defined as something painful, injurious, or unpleasant, and I suppose it means different things to different people, encompassing a broad range, and many different levels of "suffering". For instance, like the 1-10 pain assessment scale used in the medical field, with 10 being the highest level of pain. It's no doubt a mistake that I don't associate the term with anything I view as painfully uncomfortable, but relievable in any way, even if it's only in some small way. Being disabled, I equate the usage of the word with a high degree of pain that can't be altered. Having experienced skin problems akin to this phenomenon called morgellons, skin problems, alone, don't fall within the scope of my own personal definition of the word, "suffering", although, granted, I have spent much of my life in a very high state of discomfort from my skin at times. Whatever has morgie peoples' minds so "blocked" and confused, that keeps them in the states they're in, doing what they do, defies all matter of reasoning to me. I was ill with delusions involving, and stemming from, my skin a few years ago. It was due to a combination of serious health problems. I "suffered" then, for a very short, although too long, a period of time. But, if there had been anyone in my life telling me why I was doing it, and could have helped me get to a doctor, or pointed me into the right direction of regaining a better state of health again, I'd have latched onto it really quickly. I learned the hard way, but I was alone, with no support system. In a very odd way, even though it almost resulted in my demise, I was lucky. Luckier than someone with mixed up ideas, remaining stuck in the states they're in, and defending it. At 4:38 PM, Anonymous said... smiley. I dont believe a single word you said about your former skin condition. You sound more like a Phsycologist trying to befriend people and to relate to people in that understanding judgemental style you use before you diagnose them online or start PROJECTING your former self on to others. Cut the shit. You sound fake as hell. At 8:53 PM, Wisdom said... I am fascinated by this new "disease" I just discovered by reading a small quip on Yahoo. It seems to me that man's attempt at playing "God", and his immature, naive and illegitimate "science" and genetic engineering and technology is the cause of all of this. Example: nobody ever heard of the Avian Flu, or West Nile Virus, until some researchers started trying to genetically modify the canary virus to make an anti-HIV vaccine. Strange...I've always wondered if HIV escaped from a bio-warfare laboratory, and Tom Bearden, an internationally known retired physicist in Huntsville Alabama STRONGLY believes in this. See www.cheniere.org, for more details on Tom's strange (but probably true) beliefs. After reviewing a windows media file I strangely was able to download from www.silentsuperbug.com (don't know how I did this, but when you try to visit this page, it consistently says the man's html transmission bandwidth is exceeded, dah, dah, dah)...after reviewing this video clip, I had an overwhelming sensation that the plagues described in the book of Revelations, in the Bible, are all MANMADE disasters! This disease is strangely reminiscint of a plague described in the book of Revelations, where Scorpions are biting people and they long for death, but death flees from them...of course, the way I interpret the Holy Bible, these real plagues don't start until the middle of the "Great Tribulation Week", or Time of Jacob\Israel's Trouble. You have to understand Daniel's 70 weeks of Years of prophetic time, allocated to the Jewish peoples, to fulfill thier earthly destiny, and to bring in Messiah's eternal Kingdom...blah, blah, blah...this is very deep, and totally inappropriate to go into here. If I were someone infested with this hideous disease, I would simply take Almighty God at His Word and promises to heal those who will respond to His offer of awesome love and salvation and grace, offered at the Cross of Calvary - which, to me, is the greatest miracle in the world, that Christ died for we twisted homo sapiens, corrupted by an alien race, aeons ago, before Anatek\Rephaim was destroyed and then became the asteroid belt that now sandwiches between earth and mars....long story, Alien intervention, long ago, Genesis 6, Noah's Flood, etc. The Word of God promises, in Isaiah chapter 53, that for those of us who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ (wholeheartedly), that there is no more curse! Also, see Romans chapter 8:28, where God plainly says that all things work together for the good of those who love God, who are the called, according to His eternal purposes, in Christ Jesus our precious Lord....again, this is deep, and only the Holy Spirit of Jesus ca help each individual understand these profound truths of God's great Cosmos Creation. I hope I don't seem to far-hearted away from all the poor people who are suffering from this atrocious disease, as my heart and my prayers go out to them. This whole hideous thing sound just too dadgum strange, but yet, it's apparently a real disease. It's strongly smacks of the X-Files, and my gut feeling is that our own government is cooperating with a very ancient and very evil race of demons and fallen angels (a.k.a., "aliens"), to orchestrate this disease, in order to help bring about the fall of the current world order and global empire. I believe this disease is just another form of biological warfare, and that it has been deliberatly genetically engineered in a laboratory, by some evil, devious master-mind (someone like Hitler would fit the bill)...I believe Alien nanite technology is involved and this is a special form of living nanite made from organic materials. There seems to be some type of ANT mentality to this entire disease phenomenon, as Ant appear to operate with a single collective mind...pheromone communications is not the only form of communication, as it is now known that even DNA nucleotide base pairs can form tiny microscopic antenna arrays (especially where there is a repeating gold atom every 50th nucleotide base pair). I hope my OPINION helps...opinions are like buttholes, and everybod has one...but not everybody believes that Almighty God is real...I for one, do believe in Him, with all my heart, soul, strength, mind and body...He was the first scientist and this whole planet earth is STILL His original experiment in Free Will. I pray for God to show mercy on all these poor people, and to help the CDC scientists to find a cure and find one very soon...this is some form of alien hybrid technology, and these evil fallen demons are back at work, trying to recapitulate what they lost in Genesis 6, when the evil nephilim died, that God had detroyed. As per Chris Carter of the X-Files...Chris, if you read this...thanks so much for a very brave christian man like yourself to uncover many of Satan's lies and propagandas and evil works of darkness... To the Lord Jesus Christ, Yahweh Supreme Commander of the Universe be all the eternal Glory, Amen. At 9:53 PM, Tall Cotton said... Wisdom, Morgellons is not a disease. No it's not. How about that? But, it can sure be a curse if you let it. Tall Cotton At 11:54 PM, Smileykins said... The title of this section of the blog, is "Morgellons Theories are varied", so it's good to see another person's theory. I respectfully disagree with you, Wisdom, but there are plenty of morgellons' believers in agreement with what you've said, and there's a good niche for that on their message boards. I don't think you'd have the opinion you've concluded, if you looked around and knew more of the background as to the origins of this despicable phenomenon. Morgellons disease is non-existent, and it is not an End Time plague. It is a mass state of confusion over many health conditions, that cause a horrific misunderstanding that people cannot get a grip on. They can't, actually. Some things they report are just naturally occuring processes of the immune system trying to do its job, and they keep messing with it, keeping it flared. Anyway, treating their real health problems, through believing their doctors' diagnoses, which is rarely ever done, because too many of them have their minds poisoned with the belief that everything wrong with them is "morgellons disease", is the number one major problem. So much defies reason, other than the very obvious wanting to place blame somewhere, and they've certainly got plenty of that to go around, too. That keeps them in this mindset, waiting for the day that we all have to "eat our words" and they will be cured, and sue not only the government, but all of the many doctors, they all went to, for malpractice. They're full of misunderstandings, remaining in the states they're in, doing things to prolong and exacerbate their skin conditions, without knowing any better. It would seem that since they all claim the problems they've had with doctors, plus, it would seem that since so many are so distrusting, and so very fearful of the world we live in, that rather than perpetuating all their fears, they would "research" (as they call it), optimal ways of achieving healing on their own, and, most definitely, ways of maximizing their immunity to protect themselves from the many assaults and attacks they believe they're under. There is so much more than any of us are truly aware of going on with morgie people. At 12:04 AM, Smileykins said... Do you know how it all started, Wisdom? No, because you're only seeing the lie, and not seeking, and looking for, the truth... "It all started with a young boy named Drew..." Look up the background, if you're really interested. Afterall, our God doesn't want one of His people believing a lie, you know? At 12:37 AM, Smileykins said... I missed seeing your remarks that you addressed to me, Anonymous. You said... smiley. I dont believe a single word you said about your former skin condition. You sound more like a Phsycologist trying to befriend people and to relate to people in that understanding judgemental style you use before you diagnose them online or start PROJECTING your former self on to others. Cut the shit. You sound fake as hell. 4:38 PM Anonymous, I am a Christian, and I do NOT tell lies. It is certainly no concern of mine what you think, and if you read my and Tall Cotton's blog, and possessed the necessary comprehensive skills to understand it, and still chose to harbor all the bitterness in your soul that you can muster up towards me, that is still just fine, as far as I'm concerned. Darkness despises the light, and I am too close to your truth. I understand that. At 11:29 AM, Anonymous said... I haven't looked up and read all about "Drew", yet, Smileykins, but I've been doing my homework, because my heart really bleeds for these people, and the sheer hell and torment that has descended upon them, with, and for no reason, whatsoever. But I want to thank you for your kindness and very intelligent and thoughtful reply to my posting. May the Lord Sabaoth smile upon you, Smileykins! No, I am not a "Morgie", and I don't suffer from this hideous disease. But I do believe, with all my head, and heart, that unless our government acts very quickly and decisively, and stops "passing the buck" (and the other, buearocratic B.M.), there will be many more "Morgies" before this whole hideous ordeal is finally over. It will become a global disaster, and is already in the making (apparently). From what I can see, so far, with my blind eyes (thank God my heart is not so blind anymore!), is that the Frass Meteorite theory (as crazy, and insane as it sounds), is so far, in my guesstimated opinion, probably, the most likely candidate...there are currently two sister probes on Mars...I wonder just when NASA will claim they mysteriously disappeared, like the other two predecessor probes? I believe NASA and the government has lied to we, "American peoples", for years and years and years about the UFO(s) and the Aliens...their lies are finally starting to "catch up with them", and they wont be so "unsympathetic", when THEY too, become Morgies... I sincerely hope that it is not too late. The "Bodysnatchers" are already here and they're already snatching bodies and turning them into "Morgies". It is very interesting to note that NASA has apparently lied about the two probes which mysteriously disappeared on the dark side of Mars...all this crap started when the Cydonian Region was discovered, and people got very interested in it... Suddenly, the "doors of information", knowledge, and understanding were suddenly, and inexplicably slammed shut (to the world's dismay and protest). Since then, there's been a whole lot of speculation and conjecture, but no real answers, about a lot of smoke, which proves nothing but that there's definitely a fire, somewhere; and nobody wants to admit who started this Blaze. It all has it's strange and twisted roots in Roswell, and that has it's roots in the Philadelphia experiment and in man playing God back in 1942, in reaction to the "Foo Fighters", which mysteriously appeared all over and is very well documented, still pending explanation. Even SETI has all but disappeared from the Radar Scope...only to be disseminated and replaced by people using thier own personal computers, linked to the Internet, to form an antlike community of computers, to replace the Supercomputers that SETI lost. How cheap of our government, to withdraw funding from SETI and to claim they have no more funding for such a "ludicrous" project - when it is of parmount importance, to our survival, as a Species, on this Rock called, "Earth!. The very key to our survival, as a species, hinges, very prominantly, on our origions and our understanding of our or origins, and more detailed knowlege of the Cosmos itself! This CRAP disease is NOT of man's origion, does NOT fit any known scientific nomenclature, category, or phylogenetic structural form (as we know it). It is too well disseminated, too well structered and genetically programmed to be of man's infantile design. It bares the dinstinct mark of "ALIEN", and it is written all over this disease, it's genesis, vector transmission, aetiology, mode of operation, pathogenesis, demise, etc. There is nothing similar on all of earth, to my knowledge and understanding. It is totally strange, new, alien, and in a class, all by itself. My very strong "gut feeling" (and in my educated "guesstimation", at this time), is that this hideous disease is of the devil, and is ALIEN in technolgy, disbursement, and ramifications, and general strategy... I don't know what else to do at this time, Smileykins, except to pray for these poor people, the "Morgies", and ask the Lord of Hosts to let them know that they are loved, no matter what happens to them next. It must be a real nightmare from hell that has descended upon thier ususpecting lives. I feel like I am in some kind of weird dream, but this crap is actually happening, believe it or not! I believe this disease is REAL and I also believe that our government has a lot more knowledge and expertise and undertanding and technologies than what they claim. I also strongly belive that our government is full of B.M. ! "The Truth is Out There", and sometimes it is more unbelievable than even Science Fiction. Even today, Zero Point physics, M-String theories, cutting edge Quantum Mechanics, etc., are crossing "boundaries", previously reserved for the theologian and clergyman...their languages is becoming so similar, one doesn't know which class wrote WHAT anymore! My most pressing fear is that the world leaders want to turn us over to the Aliens, for total assimilation. The Borg has spoken, and our leaders are their puppets. It makes one wonder, why, Reagan died of Alzheimner's disease? Why not some other disease? Did he know a lot more than what they wanted him to remember? Is this why his mind was wiped, "blank", by Alzheimer's, because he was a "threat" to thier pecking order? He was the one and ONLY president who has ever made a bold, public statment, to the general, U.N., world assembly, about Aliens and UFO(s), then Huntsville, Alabama literally exploded, overnight, with Star Wars, to become a leading, cutting edge city on the map - 75 miles from my home town. Sure, Clinton admitted seeing a U.F.O., and so did Carter...Also, Bush Senior was involved in the CIA's secret Central Intelligence Committee project on Astral Projection or Remote Viewing...much was discovered about Mars and it's history...see the book by Constance Brown. Book Title evades my memory, but I know it was Constance Brown who wrote it. One of the weirdest books I ever read in my entire life, but yet very, very informative. the Borg is here...now...we have been forewarned, by the "dreamlike prophesies" of science fiction, the Bible, Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce, the Indian prophets, the Mayan Prophets, and even the two brothers who disappeared on the NAVY Philadelphia experiment, Al Bielik and whats-his-face, brother. I know all this sounds so crazy and insane...but it's true...who would have believed that Mt. Krakatoa erupted, destroying ancient Atlantis? But then they can't decide WHERE Atlantis was even located at! Was it in the Indonesian Ocean, or was it, approximatly 80 miles off the coast of Florida, in the northeastern part of the Bermuda Triangle? Or, did it have it's roots in the discoveries of ancient cities off the coast of Baja California, Central America? Who knows, maybe Atlantis actually covered the entire Globe at some point in eons past? Even the Discovery channel did a show about the Sphynx and the constellation LEO and the Lion that rules over Earth. Could this be the same biblical Lion of the Tribe of Judah, I wonder? A.K.A., "Jesus"? The Discovery Channel's line of reasoning was that the Sphynx was apparently built by an ancient Race of Beings who inhabited planet earth about 10 million years ago (this was some time BEFORE the Genesis account of Adam and Eve), etc., q.v. It doesn't seem FAIR at all, that Indonesian has had far more than it's share of "punishment" from the Powers that be...and even I ask the Lord, "Why?". Who knows? Maybe the prophesies about Atlantis will rise again, are about to be fulfilled, in Indonesia? I can't explain this, but I was dreaming about an Earthquake, then woke up, got some coffee, turned on the Net, and discovered that Yahoo posted a news-story, exactly "11 minutes ago", about an earthquake tha thit Indonesia and left even more dead people, lying around like a bunch of Flies. How did I know this was happening, even in a dream state? We are all interconnected. We are holographic and spiritual beings, in basic nature and makeup... It all hinges and pivots upon Mt. Moriah and Calvary, an event that happened over 2,000 years ago. Even the Movie, "Contact" (with Jodie Foster), should have told our leaders that there was far more to be learned...then came the movie, "Frequency"...again, the leaders shrugged thier shoulders, and went on to more "pressing" problems on\in he world scene. Then came the movie, "White Noise"...there was the Poltergeist and Amityville Horror series...Why does Sci-Fie and Horro have so very much in common? Is this ancestral memories? Is the future already written, even within our own DNA scripting? I guess the bottom line is that we have all been "forewarned". We just weren't paying much attention, I guess. And now, we are paying the price for our blissful ignorance, and irresponsibilities, as a species on this third rock from the sun. We can't look to the Leaders for answers or solutions! This much, more than anything, is quite obvious. They tinker in thier labs, with something (DNA) they barely undertand...they make one superbug after another, and then find (like the Liars they all are), that they have to make another Superbug to kill the first one. "If the Blind lead the Blind, they shall both fall into the Ditch!" - Jesus of Nazareth. I don't know what else to say, except that the Truth is Out There...and with Time...we will find it. At 11:54 AM, Margellons said... While these UFO theories are interesting, they have no real relevence to Morgellons. You should probably find a more appropiate forum. At 2:36 PM, Anonymous said... Smileykins is a christian huh? Well that explains it right there. Arent you fuckers the first to point a finger at people. FOR ANYTHING. Jesus Fucking Christ. No wonder you talk down on people you self righteous piece of shit. At 10:49 PM, Tall Cotton said... He or she definitely needs to find a more appropriate forum. The person is a stark raving lunatic. At 4:31 AM, Smileykins said... Anonymous said... Smileykins is a christian huh? Well that explains it right there. Arent you fuckers the first to point a finger at people. FOR ANYTHING. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ No, Anonymous, I'm not that fake type of Christian you're familiar with, dude. A previous post here..... At 1:15 AM, Smileykins said... Well, it's nobody's business what we do in our personal lives. I've never done crank, but when people have to turn to alcohol or drugs, that's certainly not a reflection that they are bad people. It's usually quite the opposite. If I encounter a homeless person outside a store, begging for money to buy a bottle of booze with, I give them$10. The poor souls always invent an outlandish story of what they need the money for. It's so sad.

Why is it seeming that I'm practically being required to legitimize and justify everything I say here as bad as I used to have to on morgie boards?

Oh yeah, simple math. Hmmm.