Tuesday, May 30, 2006

India

Here's a fascinating article from India:

A study of skin disorders in patients with primary psychiatric conditions.

Which neatly goes over a "mixed variety of physical and mental illnesses".

Only 2% were diagnosed with DOP, and less than 5% of the skin disorders were psychogenic.

Now, I don't think this group is at all representative of the people who claim to have Morgellons, since it's a sample of people who have a primary psychiatric condition. But the varied nature of the study group is probably representative of the mixed variety of Morgellons sufferers.

Here's a nice quote:

"The skin occupies a powerful position as an organ of communication and plays an important role in socialization throughout life. The interface between dermatology and psychiatry is complex and of clinical importance"

10 Comments:

At 3:31 PM, Blogger upnapishtim said...

Hmmmm...let's see. Indian doctors trained in Western style medicine come up with Western style conclusions. Oh yea, that was brilliant. Five-star. I wonder what the Ayurvedic doctor might say about the same thing. Now that would be interesting; you'd think in seven thousand years they might have figured-out a thing or two.

 
At 8:50 PM, Blogger Tall Cotton said...

That's an excellent article. It makes it very clear that many cutaneous disorders are accompanied by psychiatric conditions. The skin problems and the psychiatric conditions should serve as warning flags, each for the other.

What came first? The chicken or the egg.

A serious skin condition can effect a person emotionally, and an emotional problem can affect a person's skin. Which should you treat? In my opinion, it would be wise to treat both, if both are present, but if either of those conditions are of a serious nature, treatment should be left to professionals.

The mind and the body are members of a system of checks and balances, but many people refuse to nuture another key figure in the system, the central figure or interface between the two, and that is the spirit.

What came first, the chicken or the egg? Does it really matter? Let any member go and the whole house of cards comes crashing down.

 
At 9:16 PM, Blogger upnapishtim said...

Or...the same culprit affecting the skin, such as a spirocyte, is also affecting the brain; in which case, one needs to better understand how to identify and kill the little bugger in order to treat the skin and the mind. It is true, the two are linked, linked by a common infectious agent.

 
At 1:42 AM, Blogger Covered In Lumps said...

"In my opinion, it would be wise to treat both, if both are present"

Bingo - therein lies the answer. Any long term medical complaint has a psychological aspect to it - if nothing else, constantly feeling cruddy makes you feel depressed, and you end up in a cycle of not coping and so on. Those with skin conditions are particularly susceptible because of the shame and dirtiness connotations, even subconsciously, people hold regarding skin lesions.

Treat the whole person, not just part of them.

 
At 8:36 PM, Blogger abac68 said...

abac68 said...
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8:04 PM
abac68 said...
You Sick, twisted, individual. How dare this blog site allow material to be written about "a little boy named Drew" and the late "Tavis Wilson" and his mom. LEAVE THESE PEOPLE ALONE

 
At 7:53 PM, Blogger Smileykins said...

I agree about treating the whole person, and I tend to think that anyone with skin conditions other than "morgellons disease victims" can tell whether their emotions create an exacerbation in their skin conditions, and vice versa, and that they seek the right methods of assistance for it, if necessary.

I've been in remission from eczema for about 20 years now, and stress definitely caused it to flare, although I didn't seek help over it. The stress, I mean. I just treated the eczema.

I got the heck teased out of me at work over my big raw patches, but that honestly didn't bother me. Hehe, I'd just chase after whomever was teasing me, and threaten to rub my sores on them. It was really pretty fun, actually.

Morgies, however, have such a distinctly different set of circumstances. I know, from when I'd been ill, and recovered, from a unique set of explainable things, several years ago, with what has since been labeled as a "disease called morgellons". There is no such "disease", but there is a condition that can be brought about through many states of ill health.

The misconceptions that have been instigated and instilled in peoples' minds, though, due to the "creation of morgellons disease", which is causing them to disbelieve, and disregard, their other medical concerns, thinking it is all a result of morgellons, is
a very seriously unique matter of concern for us all.

 
At 10:11 PM, Blogger abac68 said...

Keep spinning your crap, I'm loving it. Oh and by the way - KISS MY BOTTOM!

 
At 10:25 PM, Blogger abac68 said...

1111 West 17th Street
Tulsa, Oklahoma 74107-1898
918-582-1972
May 15, 2006
Re: Morgellons Disease
From: Randy S. Wymore, Ph.D., Department of Pharmacology & Physiology
Rhonda Casey, D.O., Department of Pediatrics
Oklahoma State University Center for Health Sciences
Tulsa, Oklahoma
Dear Practitioner,
This letter concerns a patient population that manifests a particular set of symptoms we have encountered
with increasing frequency, and that OSU-CHS is actively researching. The condition has been labeled as
Morgellons Disease and it is unclear if this is a single disease or a multi-faceted syndrome. Until recently, most of
these patients have been grouped as a subset of the diagnosis of Delusions of Parasites (delusional parasitosis;
DOP). After obtaining careful patient histories and thorough physical exam, we have determined that Morgellons
patients have several important distinctions ruling out the diagnosis of DOP.
This population of patients frequently exhibit the following symptoms:
• Distinct and poorly healing skin lesions with unusually thick, membranous scarring upon eventual healing.
• Moderate to extreme pruritis at sites of lesions as well as un-erupted skin.
• Microscopic examination of these lesions will most often reveal the presence of unusual fibers, which may be
black, blue or red. These fibers, which many healthcare providers initially thought to be textile
contaminants, are often present in the deep tissue of biopsies obtained from unbroken skin of individuals
with this condition. Careful examination of these fibers further reveals that they are frequently associated
with hair follicles, and are definitely not textile in origin.
• Most of these patients suffer from a host of neurological symptoms which can vary in severity from mild to
severe. These neurological symptoms include peripheral tingling, paresthesias and varying degrees of motor
involvement which appear to progress.
• Intermittent cognitive and behavioral status changes are often observed and also seem to progress with the
severity of disease. This is often referred to as “brain fog” by the patient as they experience a waxing and
waning of this symptom.
• Laboratory findings in these patients are variable, but often reveal eosinophilia and elevated levels of
Immunoglobin E.
• Other symptoms of varying severity and frequency have been described, and are included in the attached
case definition.
Continued…
Morgellons patients differ from classical, delusional parasitosis patients in several areas. They do not respond to
antipsychotics, and new lesions continue to appear upon complete cessation of manual excoriation.
Due to the sensation of foreign material in their tissue, that has been described as sharp, stinging and/or splinterlike,
the patient may have discovered the fibers prior to seeking medical care, and may bring them to your office for
examination. Please do not assume that the patient's problem is purely psychological based on this propensity.
Many of these patients may appear skeptical of traditional medical care due to frequent dismissal of their
symptoms in the past. The combination of suffering from a chronic disease with distressful symptoms and no known
cause or cure can cause some patients to appear anxious or agitated.
We encourage you to take the time to carefully interview any patient who may fall into this category, perform
any testing you may deem appropriate, and most importantly treat the patient with compassion and dignity.
Sincerely,
Randy S. Wymore, Ph.D. Rhonda Casey, D.O.
Director of Research, Associate Professor of Pediatrics
Morgellons Research Foundation
Assistant Professor of Pharmacology
Oklahoma State University
Center for Health Sciences
1111 West 17th Steet
Tulsa, Oklahoma 74107-1898
email: morgellons@okstate.edu
Morgellons Information Line: (877) 599-7999
www.healthsciences.okstate.edu/morgellons/index.cfm

 
At 9:55 PM, Blogger Tall Cotton said...

Stupidity isn't really considered to be a physical condition or a psychiatric condition, but for the Morgies it seems to be a real common characteristic. The following quote was copied from a post on lymebusters morgellons forum.

Re: hypothetical question....what if you found out
« Reply #14 on Jun 5, 2006, 1:13am »

"Only thing that did work somewhat well was the 3 ozs of malathion every other day in 1 gal of water.I have since switched to the granular form which I spread throghout the house....feels like your walking on sparow seeds under your feet..."

Of course, anyone with 2 brain cells ought to know better than attempt such a thing.

Tall Cotton

 
At 10:42 PM, Blogger Smileykins said...

I appreciate abac68 sharing Doctor Wymore's statement to physicians, which otherwise, I had only read once and missed the importance of what he says near the end.

"The combination of suffering from a chronic disease with distressful symptoms and no known cause or cure can cause some patients to appear anxious or agitated.
We encourage you to take the time to carefully interview any patient who may fall into this category, perform any testing you may deem appropriate, and most importantly treat the patient with compassion and dignity."

Imagine the levels of toxicity, and what role they help play in "appearing anxious or agitated". That cautionary statement that he made is so sad.

 

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